What is the fine line between science and spiritual reality?

Its late and I have just returned from a medical education seminar ……It was all about hypertension….What could anyone teach me further about hypertension….Well plenty it turns out. Its not that doctors don’t know about the guidelines or the drugs…They do. Its that our patients are not compliant and don’t follow our prescriptions for  help. So why is that.
Lets start with fear. They think a drug will hurt them . They feel it may do something ” bad ” ….  Very unlikely but that is what they feel. They struggle with their humanness, They struggle with financial concern. They struggle  !  What to do. At the root is their fear is uncertainty about the meaning of their existence. Their relatioships and the relationship they have with their loved ones. Am I good enough . Do I measure up. AM I worthy  . Should I take these pills. What is the payoff….Why should I do this. If I live longer because my doctor says I should treat this condition and prevent that heart attack or stroke….then what….what is next…what happens next. That is the existential riddle of existence.   We will explore that here on this blog. Think of this…..What is the fine line between science and spiritual reality. Is it the pill we take to preserve our health. Just think. Today, the Catholic Church elected an NEW Pope….Pope Francis I… When I was little, I thought the Pope was sent from God….Pehaps….But he is a human…like you….like me….Once he was a boy, then a youth, then a student of the church, and thne a man. Then…after years of experience and grooming….He is now the Pope.  He is spiritual. He is accomplished. He is the spiritual guide of billions. He is spiritually connected to our maker. He is a man.  So what is the fine line between science ( the knowable) and existensial existence ( the unknowable and the unprovable) Well…we have many who tackle this question. My favourite is Depak Chopra ….He makes the most sense to me….   We struggle . We are human. Medicine tries to treat medical conditions and apply science ( a divison of human understanding ) But we are spirits having a human experience. Do we , as humans, have the inate, but, undefined ability to determine fuutre outcome by our thoughts and intent ….Well…What do YOU think…….I have a view…I have my view…I want to hear about your view…I want to know about your feelings about the human obsession with lengthening time in life ….If your spiritual self is beyond human understanding…why do we have an epidemic of the worried well. Our intent and outcome sources from our individual minds and souls. We have more control than you think…..I would like ALL your collective thoughts….What do you think….I will watch and wait for what you all share……More tomorrow    drV

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3 comments on “What is the fine line between science and spiritual reality?
  1. Dan Miron says:

    I am going to try to speak to one specific part of your blog, Dr. V., specifically this section here: “Its not that doctors don’t know about the guidelines or the drugs…They do. Its that our patients are not compliant and don’t follow our prescriptions for help. So why is that. Lets start with fear. They think a drug will hurt them . They feel it may do something ” bad ” …. Very unlikely but that is what they feel. They struggle with their humanness, They struggle with financial concern. They struggle ! What to do. At the root is their fear is uncertainty about the meaning of their existence. ”

    So now, having set the stage as you did so well, here are some of my thoughts. While it is true that there are many reasons for it, as you have rightly listed here, I think the underlying theme of what you are describing is the “uncertainty”. This is oftentimes an all-encompassing feeling on the part of many, and small wonder that in this day and age, we find that the socio-economic strata dealing with the most uncertainty are of a “certain” age; of a ‘certain” gender and are of a “certain” professional background usually involving frenetic pace of life re work and family obligations. I know I am generalizing here, but please bear with me, as I don’t know if your blog will cut me off at a certain mount of words! 🙂 In many anecdotal situations that I know of, this “fear” that you are referring to seems to stem from the financial pressures experienced by many who have either a) lost their benefits packages; or b) have had misfortune in their lives leaving them with little in the way of financial means to support their need for the meds that they are being prescribed for hypertension; or c) they have experienced some other type of misfortune, perhaps including – but not limited to – i) the support of grown children at university, ii) grown children who have returned to the parental nest and are creating on pressure financial resources just by being there, or iii) perhaps having to care for a frail elderly parent – with all of the financial costs this could oftentimes involve (travel, time off work, etc.) Certainly I think you would agree that alone any of these could cause the uncertainty you refer to; and perhaps even lead to the deeper questions you have put forward when you say the individuals are questioning themselves. However, it is also true that none of the situations I mentioned here are mutually exclusive, so that one can imagine what the cumulative effect of dealing with two or more of these simultaneously can do not only to a patient’s hypertension; but perhaps also to heighten the sense of uncertainty referred to already.
    I can agree that many are asking “what’s next…what happens next”. However, is this a symptom of their “non-compliance” or is it instead a pragmatic response to some repeating pressure in their lives.
    Having said this, I think there is another observation we need to make; specifically, that if one is to argue that Lifestyle is partly to blame for hypertension (i.e. diet selection being a chief causal factor) then is it the individual who is in direct control of this situation, or – in the absence of sufficient income/knowledge/awareness to support the introduction of healthier dietary alternatives – is not the individual also a product of the world today. Here I bring to mind the phenom of the food manufacturers loading up our products with salt as filler in their quest to deliver less product at higher prices – thereby perpetuating the profits they need. So it is not merely a matter of the patient being non-compliant, what we could be facing is the systemic problem of big business influence affecting the ability of patients to 1) discern what are the ingredients in their food; and 2) make conscious decisions. If salt is still considered a prime causal factor leading to hypertension, then how is it that no one in the medical community seems to object to the big-business practice of injecting select portions of meat (chicken, pork and beef) with saline in order to make it tender even though it may be a less-tender cut of meat to begin with? So, is it the individual only who isn’t compliant that is the root of the non-compliance, or these other factors?
    If we then look at the fear that you refer to and – I think – rightly ascribe to our sense of self-worth, our perception of what others perceive of us, or our perception of some measure of futility concerning compliance with meds, perhaps the fear is in continuing to live with no respite from these influences that have caused us to become a pill-dependent society?
    As said, I am only dealing with a portion of what you have written. You have opened up a lot of cans of interesting morsels with your first blog, congratulations first of all on doing this; and I hope that sound I hear is not the sound of snoring from those less-interested in my first-ever blog posting back to you! DM 🙂

  2. Dan Miron says:

    I must add a postscript. I have no proof that saline is injected into meats as a tenderizer, so my wonderful spouse has pointed out my possible error here and I retract that portion of my blog reply. All I really do know on this specific subject is that there have been occasions where I could have sworn I was consuming brine when I had added no salt as either flavouring or tenderizer. I generalized in my comment earlier and my statement is not intended to be taken as a fact; that was an unfair comment to make both towards medical profession and the food manufacturers. Apologies tendered.

    • Dan Miron says:

      I must add a postscript. I have no proof that saline is injected into meats as a tenderizer, so my wonderful spouse has pointed out my possible error here and I retract that portion of my blog reply. All I really do know on this specific subject is that there have been occasions where I could have sworn I was consuming brine when I had added no salt as either flavouring or tenderizer. I generalized in my comment earlier and my statement is not intended to be taken as a fact; that was an unfair comment to make both towards medical profession and the food manufacturers. Apologies tendered.

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